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By all means, go right ahead.

But would you mind to drop me a note about it, if we've not "met" before? I'm a bit uncomfortable with friending back folk with whom I've not had any personal contact.

Date: 2009-03-04 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com
Out of pure mad curiosity, how do you know both tree and leaf and sovay?

Date: 2009-03-04 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] sovay I met a couple of years back at NOMAD (the folk festival which migrated from Newtown to New Haven to Hamden and didn't happen in '08), due to the fact that she's a friend of a friend of mine who was also there.

[livejournal.com profile] tree_and_leaf I met online, through [livejournal.com profile] carlanime's LJ.

Out of the same mad curiosity, how'd you come to meet both, yourself?

Date: 2009-03-05 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] sovay through a mutual friend at notHarvard. She also got me onto lj.

[livejournal.com profile] tree_and_leaf is a friend of [livejournal.com profile] straussmonster, who suggested that I ought to 'meet' her, given that we were both Anglican medievalists who worked on Germany.

NOMAD: you might conceivably have run into my father-in-law, Arnie Pritchard, as well.

Date: 2009-03-05 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
given that we were both Anglican medievalists who worked on Germany.

It sometimes seems like a very small world, doesn't it?

NOMAD: you might conceivably have run into my father-in-law, Arnie Pritchard, as well.

I might have. I have to confess that the name doesn't ring any bells, but it's been a couple of years and I'm terrible with names, anyhow. What does he play?

Date: 2009-03-05 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com
Storyteller, rather than musician.

Date: 2009-03-05 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
I have to admit that I tend to get so caught up in the musical side of those festivals--not to mention the catching up with friends side--that I tend to miss all the storytelling.

Well, if NOMAD happens this year, and if he's there, I'll make a point of going to hear him.

Date: 2009-06-05 09:22 am (UTC)
ext_39476: Found it in an lj-friend's comment (Default)
From: [identity profile] ajat.livejournal.com
Hi, I just came along wandering :) You're Irish :)

Date: 2009-06-05 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
Greetings! I do believe I've seen you round Carla's LJ.

I'm not exactly Irish, but I reckon I'm as much that as I'm anything. ;-) Bit of a mutt, bit of a wanderer, all of that.

Date: 2009-06-05 11:37 pm (UTC)
ext_39476: Found it in an lj-friend's comment (Default)
From: [identity profile] ajat.livejournal.com
But you live there ?

Date: 2009-06-06 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
Lived in Cork City for a time, years ago.

I live in the US today, but in a very Irish expat-heavy environment, mostly because it's what I do as an academic and a musician and all of that.

PS

Date: 2009-06-05 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
Kind of a funny co-incidence, seeing your profile.

I'm taking a class on Ireland and India ("post-colonialism" is a word that tends to be avoided in working with Irish topics, but that was more or less the binding thread), and one of my classmates is working on a paper comparing Indian cricket and soccer with the Gaelic Athletic Association. (I've been doing a "notes toward" a proper comparison of archaeology and ethnology in nineteenth century Ireland with that done by British scholars in India in the same period, because I haven't got enough background in Indian matters to do that side properly.)

Re: PS

Date: 2009-06-05 11:35 pm (UTC)
ext_39476: Found it in an lj-friend's comment (Default)
From: [identity profile] ajat.livejournal.com
'k, I get it

I could help verify the reality of hereabouts re what's in the literature/s on stuff hereabouts if I go through the literature/s in question

Re: PS

Date: 2009-06-06 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
Thank you very much, but I'm good with what I've got for now.

"Notes toward," which means basically the part I'm competent with and a few references in the afterword to literature about the Indian side (class readings should do for that, mostly), is all my current paper needs to be. If I ever get round to the point of fully doing the Indian half of it, I'll have to find the time to study up on it properly; I might ask you for a hand, if I've got the time, when/if I manage to get there.*

I'm sorry if it seemed as if I were fishing for help--I was really only looking to make conversation. :-)

*I'd love to do it, someday, but realistically speaking it'll have to wait till after I've got done with my MA. I've got a couple of friends with ethnomusicology degrees and backgrounds in both Irish music and Indian music, and some others who could help me with the languages.

I've even got one friend who speaks both Irish and Hindi; it's unfortunate she was on the other side of the continent when I ended up at a party hanging out with both a friend with whom I usually speak only Irish and with another friend who's writing about Indo-Persian travellers in ninteenth century Ireland and whose grandfather played cricket for Pakistan. We didn't mean to keep dropping out of English, but it's hard to keep track of that kind of thing sometimes.

Re: PS

Date: 2009-06-07 12:01 am (UTC)
ext_39476: Found it in an lj-friend's comment (Default)
From: [identity profile] ajat.livejournal.com
Oh alright then *Resigned*

I'm not exactly Irish, but I reckon I'm as much that as I'm anything
Okay, why do you arts people confuse me so much ? :D You Irish ? If not, then what ? I’m Indian, as you’ve already found out

comparison of archaeology and ethnology in nineteenth century Ireland with that done by British scholars in India in the same period, because I haven't got enough background in Indian matters to do that side properly
'k, I get it
Took me one and half slowish read to get that, they’re not my areas at all, okay ?

I'm sorry if it seemed as if I were fishing for help--I was really only looking to make conversation
I know. My fault, really. I was in a hurry at the time and ran a shortcut in the comment. I didn’t mean to mean you were fishing. Irish don’t fish, they ramble. Mostly vaguely :D Good storytellers, though :)

I could help verify the reality of hereabouts re what's in the literature/s on stuff hereabouts if I go through the literature/s in question
I have travelled India fairly well and can sort of sort out the discrepancies in the archaeology stuff. Not so much the other, I think. What’s it you do with ethnology ?

a friend with whom I usually speak only Irish
That’d be Gaelic, then ?

Best for your MA :) :)

Lived in Cork City for a time, years ago.
You don’t say ! I’d love to visit Ireland, but well, can’t get a connection. And it’s even worse these days, what with the restrictions on going to uk, us, aus, nz, can for people in my areas

I live in the US today, but in a very Irish expat-heavy environment, mostly because it's what I do as an academic and a musician and all of that.
Eastern coast, then ? Oh well, if you like it.
You’ve settled there and all, I s’pose … Properly settled ? ;D

So, what are your thoughts on fpb ?

XD

XD XD

Re: PS

Date: 2009-06-09 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
Sorry I'm so long in replying--this paper is kicking me up and down the street.

Should find the time tonight, I hope *knocks wood*

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Date: 2009-06-12 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
Oh alright then *Resigned*

Sorry to make you feel resigned. ;-)

Okay, why do you arts people confuse me so much ? :D You Irish ? If not, then what ? I’m Indian, as you’ve already found out

I really don't feel as if I'm 100% anything. My citizenship is American, but if I say I'm that people look at me
funny, because I don't talk like it at all. Genetically I'm very mixed, culturally I'm more Irish or Irish-American (I'm not born there, so I can't say the former, but I feel more comfortable with Irish expat culture than with a lot of the Irish-American culture that's built up here over the generations.) than anything else.

Took me one and half slowish read to get that, they’re not my areas at all, okay?

Oh, I see. Sorry for misreading you.

I know. My fault, really. I was in a hurry at the time and ran a shortcut in the comment. I didn’t mean to mean you were fishing. Irish don’t fish, they ramble. Mostly vaguely :D Good storytellers, though :)

Well, true. Rambling is very deep in the cultural DNA. ;-)

I could help verify the reality of hereabouts re what's in the literature/s on stuff hereabouts if I go through the literature/s in question I have travelled India fairly well and can sort of sort out the discrepancies in the archaeology stuff.

Coolness. India is a place I'd love to see someday.

Not so much the other, I think. What’s it you do with ethnology ?

Ethnology is the part of anthropology that relates to cultural description, or at least I think that's the right term--I took my undergraduate degree in anthropology, although I'm a bit out of touch with the field, the past few years. Or is it ethnography? My mind is fried right now. ;-)

What I do with it, these days, is read bits of ethnology and compare them with other bits. Or something like that. ;-)

That’d be Gaelic, then ?

Irish Gaelic, yes. (There's three languages in the Gaelic family--I can sort of understand Scots Gaelic, cos I speak the northern dialect of Irish which is closer to it, and puzzle out bits of the written form in the same way as one can puzzle out bits of Italian from knowing Spanish or French, but Manx is like Greek to me. Maybe not quite that bad, although I took Ancient Greek at college and remember nothing of it but the alphabet and a vague notion of how the grammar works, but getting there. ;-)

You don’t say ! I’d love to visit Ireland, but well, can’t get a connection. And it’s even worse these days, what with the restrictions on going to uk, us, aus, nz, can for people in my areas

Ah, that's too bad. I've not been back to Ireland in years--money's been tight, and it's got very expensive. Perhaps that will change with the Celtic tiger losing ground and all of that, but we'll see.

Eastern coast, then ? Oh well, if you like it.

Yes. Greater New York.
I'm used to it. The pace is a bit too fast, but in the right places it can be all right.

You’ve settled there and all, I s’pose … Properly settled ? ;D

Depends on the definition of properly settled. ;-) I'm single, and live with my parents; both of these are things I'd wish to change. I'd not mind staying round here, but I'd be happy to move onward once I'm done with my MA, depending where I can find work and/or a PhD programme. There's a good scene on the west coast, and a few friends of mine--I'd not mind heading out there.

So, what are your thoughts on fpb ?

"There but for the grace of God go I." ;-)

Re: PS (Fixed html)

Date: 2009-07-02 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ajat.livejournal.com
RL's been eating me Sorry !!!

Irish expat culture
Hee Tell me all about Irish expat culture ! It must involve lots of drinking and music and dancing :) :)

India is a place I'd love to see someday
And I want to see Ireland !

is read bits of ethnology and compare them with other bits
That's One complicated work OMG ! Especially considering how much geography and botanical endemism shapes any culture :)

Irish Gaelic
Ah-ha ! So there are different dialects ! Dialects - right ? Hope I said that right :)

I took Ancient Greek at college
Gosh, you know Ancient Greek ! :) Hey, is that the southern dialect (Athenian), yes ? It was very different up north - much sharper and more abrupt pronunciations.

Greater New York
Hmm :) Lots of Ireland people go thereabouts - Why ?

I'm single, and live with my parents; both of these are things I'd wish to change
Hee
'kay, so you haven't settled with a gal/partner yet. Haha, if you were Indian, I'd immediately set about trying to matchmake HEE

good scene on the west coast, and a few friends of mine--I'd not mind heading out there
Then you must promise to try find something for me once you get there, I'd love to see California Yes, OMG I so would :)
Er ... just kidding :) You don't owe me anything.

So, what are your thoughts on fpb ?
"There but for the grace of God go I." ;-)

*IZ DED FROM TEH LULZ*
Hey, I don't think you could even imagine aspiring to fpb-ish levels, no matter how much you tried XD He's marooned in his own class all by himself XD XD

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Date: 2009-07-08 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
No worries, RL's been eating me as well.

Hee Tell me all about Irish expat culture ! It must involve lots of drinking and music and dancing :) :)

Sometimes, anyhow. Also political factionalism, and weird little arguments, and lots of other stuff. (Except, unfortunately, matchmaking, which isn't the only reason why I'm still single, but might play a role. ;-)

That's One complicated work OMG ! Especially considering how much geography and botanical endemism shapes any culture :)

Ayup. Tough work, which is why I'm not doing it now. Most of what I was working with just then was on the same culture, so it was vaguely doable.

Ah-ha ! So there are different dialects ! Dialects - right ? Hope I said that right :)

Ayup, three Gaelic languages, and several dialects each, at least for Irish and Scots Gaelic. I'm not sure about Manx, but Mann's such a small place that there's probably not so many.

There's three dialects of Irish--I speak mostly Ulster (Northern) dialect, which is sort of glottal and sometimes also sharp-sounding. Conamara (Western) dialect is the one I find hardest to understand--it's also sort of sharp-sounding, but also fast and just sort of different, and I'm not well accustomed to it. Munster (Southern) dialect is sort of soft-sounding--I've studied it, but couldn't really speak it without a lot of effort. I'm hoping to get some practise speaking to be understood by them next week at Catskills Irish Arts Week, cos a friend will be there who mostly speaks it. The Standard, which nobody speaks who actually is a native speaker or learnt their Irish from native speakers, is sort of a weak form of Munster dialect.

Gosh, you know Ancient Greek ! :) Hey, is that the southern dialect (Athenian), yes ? It was very different up north - much sharper and more abrupt pronunciations.

I don't really know it--it was a very intense course, from not knowing the alphabet to reading Plato in a single year, and I have trouble learning a language if I'm not being taught to actually speak it. I can hardly remember anything of it.

It was Athenian, yes, that was taught, although we had a little exposure to Ionian and Doric dialects. The professor spoke us a bit of northern dialect, once. And yes, that was how it sounded. Sort of cool, really--I might have learnt it better, but probably not.

Hmm :) Lots of Ireland people go thereabouts - Why ?

Not sure--probably because it's been such an important city for so long. Once people from a place get started going somewhere, others tend to follow, I suppose.

Hee
'kay, so you haven't settled with a gal/partner yet. Haha, if you were Indian, I'd immediately set about trying to matchmake HEE


I wish there were any real effort to matchmake in my culture/circles. (And I say this fully knowing I'd probably find it annoying if there actually were. ;-)

It's not so much that I've not settled as I can't really find anyone--every woman I find even slightly attractive is apparently either already in a relationship, lives far away, or both. ;-)

Then you must promise to try find something for me once you get there, I'd love to see California Yes, OMG I so would :)
Er ... just kidding :) You don't owe me anything.


Ah, no worries. But if I manage to find a way to get there, and if I see anything that might do for you, I'll let you know.

*IZ DED FROM TEH LULZ*
Hey, I don't think you could even imagine aspiring to fpb-ish levels, no matter how much you tried XD He's marooned in his own class all by himself XD XD


Thanks. :-)

PPS

Date: 2009-07-02 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com
I'm finally getting round to all the stuff I let slide with all the writing.

Mind if I friend you?

Re: PPS

Date: 2009-07-02 11:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ajat.livejournal.com
EEK your comment crossed mine :D Go ahead and friend. It is quite possible that we have talked enough for that. Plus you come well-connected :)

'kay, I'll go to add you now :)

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